He Is Trying to Gain Normalness Again
Ex-hostage: 'I wanted to proceeds his trust'
 | Ashley Smith: "My husband died iv years ago. And I told him that if he hurt me, my trivial girl wouldn't take a mommy or a daddy." | ||||
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ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Government say courthouse shooting suspect Brian Nichols held Ashley Smith hostage for hours in her suburban flat northeast of Atlanta before she was able to become away and call 911.
On Sunday, Smith, 26, recounted her ordeal to reporters in her attorney's role.
SMITH: It was about 2 o'clock in the morn. I was at -- I was leaving my apartment to go to the shop. I noticed a blue truck in the parking lot with a man in information technology pulling upwardly. And he parked in the parking infinite. And I really didn't think too much almost it because I only moved into that apartment, you know, two days prior. So I thought mayhap he was a neighbour coming home or something.
And then I left and went to the store. And I came back to my apartment nigh five minutes subsequently. And the truck was still there. And he was still in it. And it was in a different parking space. Information technology was really behind one where I had left. So I pulled back in there.
And I kind of got a little worried then. I thought there's somebody even so in that truck. Then I got my central to my house gear up. And I opened up my automobile door, and I got out and shut it. And I heard his shut correct behind me.
I started walking to my door, and I felt actually you know scared. And he was right at that place. I started to scream, and he put a gun to my side and he said, "Don't scream. If y'all don't scream I won't hurt you. ... He told me to go into the bathroom, and then I went to the bath. And he followed into the bath and he said, "Do you know who I am?" and I said no because he had a chapeau on.
Then he he took his hat off, and he said, "Now practise you know who I am?" And I said, "Aye, I know who yous are. Please don't hurt, but delight don't injure me. I have a 5-yr-quondam petty girl. Please don't hurt me."
He said, "I'thousand non going hurt you if y'all merely exercise what I say." I said, "All correct." So I got -- he told me to get into the bathtub, then I got in the bathtub. And he said, "I really don't feel comfy around here. I'one thousand going to walk around your firm for a few minutes just and so I become the feel of it."
I said, "OK."
He said, "I don't desire to injure you. I don't desire to hurt anybody else, so please don't do annihilation that's going to hurt you lot." He said, "Y'all know, somebody could have heard your scream already. And if they did, the constabulary are on the fashion. And I'm going to have to agree you lot hostage. And I'm going to have to kill y'all and probably myself and lots of other people. And I don't want that."
And I said, "OK. I will do what yous say."
He looked around my house for a few minutes. I heard him opening up drawers and just going through my stuff. And he came back in. And he said, "I want to relax. And I don't feel comfy with you right at present. So I'one thousand going to take to tie you up."
He brought some masking tape and an extension cord and a curtain in there. And I kind of thought he was going to strangle me. I was -- I was actually kind of scared.
Merely he told me to turn effectually and put my hands behind my back. And he wrapped my hands in a prayer -- in a praying position, so I did that. And he wrapped masking tape around my hands.
And then he told me to get into my bedroom. And I sat downward on the bed similar he asked. And he wrapped my legs with masking record and an extension cord. He too took a curtain and put it around my stomach. And he asked me if I could become upward. And I got upwards.
He said, "Can you walk?"
And I said, "No."
And and so he picked me up and took me to the bath. And he put me on a stool that I have in my bathroom. He said he wanted to have a shower.
So I said, "OK. Yous take a shower."
He said, "Well, I'm going to put a towel over your head so you don't accept to lookout me take a shower."
So I said, "OK. All correct."
He got in the shower. Took a shower. And then he got out of the shower. And he had the guns laying on the counter. Only -- I gauge he really wasn't worried most me grabbing them because I was tied upward.
He asked me if I had a T-shirt. I told him where to discover one.
And so he got dressed. He put on some clothes that I had in my house that were men'due south clothes. Then he came back in the bath.
He said, "Tin you get upwardly?"
Then I got upwardly.
He said, "Can you walk now?"
I said, "No, but I can hop."
So I hopped to my bedroom and sat on the bed. And he cut the tape off of me, unwrapped the extension cord and mantle.
I judge, at that point, he kind of made me feel similar he was comfortable enough with me that he untied me.
And so -- we went back in the bathroom. That's where he felt more comfortable -- in the bathroom away from the front of the firm, I approximate. And nosotros just talked.
I asked him if -- I told him that I was supposed to become run across my piddling daughter the next morn. And I asked him if I could get run across her. And he told me no.
My husband died 4 years ago. And I told him that if he hurt me, my piddling daughter wouldn't take a mommy or a daddy. And she was expecting to meet me the next morning. That if he didn't let me go, she would exist really upset.
He still told me no.
Merely I could kind of feel that he started to -- to know who I was. He said maybe. Perhaps I'll allow you get -- just peradventure. Nosotros'll encounter how things go.
We went to my room. And I asked him if I could read.
He said, "What do you want to read?"
"Well, I take a book in my room." Then I went and got information technology. I got my Bible. And I got a book called "The Purpose-Driven Life."
I turned information technology to the chapter that I was on that twenty-four hour period. It was Chapter 33. And I started to read the showtime paragraph of it. Later on I read it, he said, "End, volition you read information technology again?"
I said, "Yeah. I'll read it again."
So I read it again to him.
It mentioned something about what you thought your purpose in life was. What were you -- what talents were you given? What gifts were y'all given to apply?
And I asked him what he thought. And he said, "I think it was to talk to people and tell them about you."
I basically merely talked to him and tried to gain his trust. I wanted to get out to become see my daughter. That was actually important. I didn't want him to injure everyone else.
He came into my apartment telling me that he was a soldier. And that people -- that his people needed him for a job to exercise. And he was doing it.
And -- I didn't want him to hurt anybody else. He didn't want to hurt anybody else. He just told me that he wanted a place to stay to relax, to sit downwards and watch TV, to eat some existent food.
I talked to him nearly my family. I told him about things that had happened in my life. I asked him about his family. I asked him why he did what he did.
And his reason was because he was a soldier.
I asked him why he chose me and why he chose Bridgewater Apartments. And he said he didn't know, just randomly.
But after we began to talk, he said he idea that I was an angel sent from God. And that I was his sis and he was my brother in Christ. And that he was lost and God led him right to me to tell him that he had injure a lot of people. And the families -- the people -- to let him know how they felt, because I had gone through it myself.
He told me that he didn't -- he didn't want to injure the amanuensis that he hurt. He begged and pleaded with him to do things his way, and he didn't. So he had to impale him.
He said that he didn't shoot the deputy, that he hit her. And that he hoped she lived.
He showed me a picture of the -- the agent that he did kill. And I tried to explain to him that he killed a 40-year-quondam man that was probably a male parent, a husband, a friend.
And he really began to trust me, to experience my feelings. He looked at pictures of my family. He asked me to -- if he could look at them and hold them ...
I really didn't keep rails of time too much considering I was actually worried about just living. I didn't want to die. I didn't desire him to injure anybody else. And I really didn't want him to injure himself or anyone else to injure him. He's done enough -- he had done enough. And he really, honestly when I looked at him, he looked like he didn't desire to do it anymore.
He asked me what I thought he should do.
And I said, "I retrieve you should turn yourself in. If you don't plough yourself in," this is what I said, "If you don't turn yourself in, lots more than people are going to get hurt. And y'all're probably going to die."
And he said, "I don't desire that to happen."
He said, "Can I stay here for a few days? I merely want to eat some real nutrient and watch some Idiot box and sleep and merely do normal things that normal people do."
So, of form, I said, "Sure. You tin stay here." I didn't desire -- I wanted to gain his trust.
Nigh of my time was spent talking to this human being almost my life and experiences in my life, things that had happened to me.
He needed promise for his life. He told me that he was already dead. He said, "Look at me, look at my eyes. I am already dead."
And I said, "You are not dead. You are continuing right in front end of me. If you desire to die, yous can. It'due south your selection."
Merely after I started to read to him, he saw -- I guess he saw my faith and what I really believed in. And I told him I was a child of God and that I wanted to practise God's will. I guess he began to desire to. That's what I think.
He got to know me. I got to know him. He talked about his family. How -- he was wondering what they were thinking. He said, "They're probably -- don't know what to think."
Nosotros watched the news. He looked at the TV and he just said, "I cannot believe that'south me on there."
About 5:36 -- well, 6, 6:xxx, he said, "I need to make a motility." And I said, "A motility?" He said, "I need to get rid of this car before daylight, this truck [the agent's]." I said, "OK."
I knew that if I didn't agree to get with him, follow him to get the truck -- he'd but take the truck, then one thing -- or two -- i of two things. He would impale me right then, and say, "All right, well, if you're non going to assist me, and so I won't need you anymore." Or the police would never find him, or it would take longer. And someone else would get hurt, and I was trying to avoid that.
So I went. ... "I said, tin I take my jail cell phone?" He said, "Do you lot want to?" I said, "Yeah." I'm thinking, well, I might call the police and so, and I might not. And then I took it anyway. He didn't take any guns with him. The guns were laying around the house. Pretty much after he untied [me], they were merely laying around the house.
And at ane indicate, he said, "Y'all know, I'd rather yous shoot -- the guns are laying in there -- I'd rather you shoot me than them." I said, "I don't want anyone else to die, not even yous."
So we went to have the truck, and I was behind him, following him. And I thought about calling the police, you know, I thought, he's about to be in the car with me right now. So I tin can phone call the police, and when he gets in the car, then they can surround me and him together, and I could peradventure go injure, or we tin can go back to my firm.
And I really felt deep downward inside that he was going to permit me see my fiddling girl. And I said -- or and then when I leave, he tin can exist in that location by himself, or he -- he finally agreed to let me go run across my daughter. I had to leave at nine, 9:30. And I really believed that he was going to.
From the fourth dimension he walked into my business firm until we were taking that truck, he was a totally unlike person to me. I felt very threatened, scared. I felt he was going to kill me when -- when I beginning -- when he first put the gun to my side, but when I followed him to selection -- to accept the truck, I felt he was going to -- he was actually going to plow himself in. So he took the truck.
He got in the car, and I said, "Are you ready now?" And he said, "Give me a few days, please." I said, "Come up on, you've got to turn yourself in at present." I didn't feel like he might -- I felt similar he might change his listen, that he might non want to turn himself in the next solar day, or a few days after that, and that if he did experience that way, so he would need money, and the only way he could get money was if he hurt somebody and took it from them.
And so nosotros went back to my firm and got in the firm. And he was hungry, so I cooked him breakfast. He was overwhelmed with -- "Wow," he said, "real butter, pancakes?"
And I just talked with him a piffling more, just virtually -- about -- we pretty much talked about God ... what his reason was, why he made information technology out of in that location.
I said, "Practise y'all believe in miracles? Because if you don't believe in miracles -- you are here for a reason. Y'all're here in my flat for some reason. You got out of that courthouse with law everywhere, and you don't recollect that'due south a phenomenon? You don't think y'all're supposed to be sitting here right in front of me listening to me tell you, y'all know, your reason here?"
I said, "You know, your phenomenon could be that y'all demand to -- you lot need to be caught for this. Yous need to get to prison and you need to share the word of God with them, with all the prisoners there."
Then 9 came. He said, "What time do y'all take to exit?" I said, "I demand to be in that location at 10, so I demand to exit about 9:30." And I sat down and talked to him a fiddling bit more. And he put the guns under the bed, like ... I'm non going to mess effectually with them anymore.
He gave me some money when I was about to get out. Just kind of like he knew. I said, "Y'all might demand this money." And he said, "No, I don't need it. I'm going to be here for the next few days."
I basically said, keep the money. And he said, "No, I don't demand it." He asked me if in that location was anything I could do -- or he could practise for me before I left, or while I was going. He says, "Is there annihilation I can practice while you lot're gone?"
I know he was probably hoping deep downwardly that I was going to come back, just I retrieve he knew that I was going to -- what I had to do, and I had to turn him in, and I gave him -- I asked him several times, you know, "Come on, simply go with me." He said, "I'll become with you in a few days."
But when he asked me, "Is in that location annihilation I tin can do while you're gone, like hang your curtains or something?" And I said, "Yes, if you want to."
He simply wanted some normalness to his life correct then. He -- I think he realized all this -- all this that I've been through, this is not me. I don't know, that's my opinion of what he ...
Then I left my house at 9:30. And I got in the car. And I immediately called 911. I told them that he was at that place, and she asked me where I was. I said, "Oh, I'chiliad on my mode to see my daughter." I felt glad to merely actually be on my fashion to see my daughter. She said, "You've got to turn effectually and go to the leasing function." And then that'south what I did.
Source: https://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/14/smith.transcript/
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